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When Can I Get Off Treatment for Schizophrenia?

One of our Canadian readers sent in the question: “When Can I Get Off Treatment for Schizophrenia?” A great question. This question is like a gold mine with many nuggets of information waiting to be uncovered. It’s an opportunity to look at schizophrenia treatment and medicine safety. Let’s explore at least a few of the possible answers.

Get Off Your Treatment for Schizophrenia Immediately?

Given that schizophrenia is a lifelong medical condition requiring medicine for a lifetime, the idea of stopping one’s medicine immediately might seem radical. But there are times when you need to stop it immediately (and call your doctor and/or head for the nearest hospital emergency department). There are side effects of the medicines commonly used to treat schizophrenia that are dangerous, cannot be reversed, and could be life threatening. For example, allergic reactions, heart rhythm problems (QT interval prolongation, torsades de pointes), thromboembolism, seizures, stroke, and pancreatitis. These are important and we cover them in more detail below. But if one of these side effects occurs, call your doctor immediately for advice.

Another “Get Off Your Treatment for Schizophrenia Immediately”

This one is not about medicine. As with any disorder affecting the brain, it’s helpful to work with a “guide” for when your brain is not at it’s best. This helper person might be viewed as a guide, or an educator, or a therapist or psychotherapist. Whatever you call this person, he/she is a “support person” to help you through the rough spots of life. Also, when things are good, to work with you to prepare for the next rough spot. Because that’s how we all experience life, a series of rough patches with smoother sailing in between. If this person is no help at all, or ever worse, just another problem person in your life, just stop. Find a new therapist. There are many good therapists, even some great ones. Respect yourself enough to not stay with a lemon therapist thinking you can make lemonade.

When Can I Get Off Treatment for Schizophrenia? Soon!

Soon, but not today. There are medical conditions for which the person needs to take a medicine for the rest of his/her life. Type 1 diabetes, for example. The patient needs insulin. Without insulin for a while, they die, as did all type 1 diabetics before 1922. Or high blood pressure. Without treatment, it might take a decade or two, but high blood pressure will kill you with a stroke or heart attack. Medicine for high blood pressure is usually needed for the rest of your life. Schizophrenia is another one. You need to take the right medicine forever. So you need a medicine that you can take, that doesn’t make you sick, that you can tolerate. So if you’re taking a medicine that you can’t tolerate or that you don’t like, that’s not going to work. Talk to your doctor.

Finding the Right Medicine for the Rest of Your Life

People argue about the best exercise program to stay healthy. Some say aerobic exercise like jogging, running, or dancing. Others swear by weightlifting, like chest presses and biceps curls. Others like flexibility and balance, like yoga and tai chi. But wisdom says the best exercise is the one you will do and keep doing. The same is true of your medicine for schizophrenia. The best medicine, the absolutely best medicine, is the one that you will take regularly and keep taking forever. To find that right medicine is hard work, it’s a challenge, it takes time and trial and error. So if you don’t like your medicine, talk to your doctor about changing it. Work with him or her to find the best one. And, if you feel your doctor can’t work with you to do this, find a new doctor.

When Can I Get Off Treatment for Schizophrenia? Back To Stopping Your Medicine Immediately

Above, when we listed the medical emergencies for which you should stop your medicines immediately, we said we would cover these reasons in more detail.  Here’s that detail.

Back To Stopping Your Medicine Immediately – Allergic Reaction

Any food, any medicine, any substance, can cause an allergic reaction. This is not just a feeling that you don’t like the medicine or that it gives you a headache. We mean a specific IgE-mediated allergic reaction. (IgE is immunoglobulin E.) A real allergic reaction to your medicine for schizophrenia, a severe hypersensitivity reaction, can progress to “anaphylaxis”. The symptoms can come within minutes. Symptoms like hives and itching and flushed skin, wheezing and difficulty breathing, a weak, rapid pulse, nausea, dizziness, and fainting. This is life-threatening; it can kill you. You need to go to a hospital emergency department. And don’t take another dose of your medicine until you doctor reviews your medical situation.

Back To Stopping Your Medicine Immediately – Heart Rhythm Problems

We need to talk about a couple of heart rhythm problems. One is called “QT interval prolongation.” The other is called “torsades de pointes.” Neither one, as you can see, is everyday conversation. But, here’s the deal. You know that old expression, “What you don’t know won’t hurt you.” Well, it’s not true in these situations. Either of these heart rhythm problems can kill you whether you know about them or not.

What the heck is QT Interval Prolongation?

QT interval prolongation can make heart beats chaotic and can cause sudden heart death. So, if you’re still alive to notice the symptoms, call your doctor, stop your medicine, and get help; you are better off than some people. The symptoms of possible QT interval prolongation are lightheadedness, weakness, passing out or fainting, and palpitations, that is, being aware of your own heartbeat, chest pain, or too fast a heartbeat. The QT interval is the time between electrical heart beats. While older people and women are at a higher risk, this can happen to anyone.

What the heck is torsades de pointes?

Torsades de pointes is a heart rhythm problem at times related to the prolonged QT interval problem described above. The symptoms of torsades de pointes are a fast heartbeat, lightheadedness, and feeling faint. If not treated as a medical emergency torsades de pointes can result in a sudden heart attack and death. There are mentions in the medical journals that thioridazine (Mellaril), ziprasidone (Geodon), and intravenous haloperidol (Haldol) were most often associated with torsades de pointes. (“Torsades de pointes” is a French phrase for “twisting of the points”, referring to the heart beat points on an ECT [electrocardiogram, heart rhythm tracing]).

Back To Stopping Your Medicine Immediately – Thromboembolism

When a blood clot (thrombus) forms in your leg, the symptoms will be pain in your calf or thigh, leg swelling, your skin will feel warm, and on your leg you’ll see light red or purple streaks. If a piece of the clot breaks off (embolism) and gets to your lungs (this part could be fatal), you’ll have shortness of breath and rapid breathing, rapid heart rate and chest pain, and might get lightheaded or faint. There’s a lot information in medical journals to say that the medicines used for schizophrenia can, at times, cause leg blood clots. And, a piece of clot can break off and go to your lungs. Again, if you think you might have a thromboembolism, call your doctor. He’ll probably have you stop your medicine and go right to a hospital emergency department.

Back To Stopping Your Medicine Immediately – Seizures

Okay, it’s rare, but it can happen. You could have a seizure, also called convulsions. Almost all of the medicines that are helpful for schizophrenia can increase the risk of someone having a seizure. Some of these medicines increase the risk more than others. Chlorpromazine (Thorazine) and clozapine (Clozaril) are more likely to cause seizures, and risperidone (Risperdal), haloperidol (Haldol), molindone (Moban), fluphenazine (Prolixin), pimozide (Orap), and trifluoperazine (Stelazine) are less likely. Usually seizures are frightening to see but not that medically dangerous. But they can be medically dangerous, and once you have one you don’t want to be at risk for another one. As before, if you have had something strange happen and you or someone else thinks it might have been a seizure, call your doctor. She’ll probably want to see you and do an EEG test (brain wave test).

Back To Stopping Your Medicine Immediately – Stroke

It’s rare, but it seems that the medicines for schizophrenia can cause a stroke. The symptoms of a stroke vary. For example, a stroke might cause a sudden weakness of an arm and leg on one side of the body, or just an arm or just a leg, or part of the face. Speaking might become difficult with words hard to say or talking that make no sense. Or, the people around the person having a stroke might see that the person looks confused. Or, that they cannot understand the conversation. Vision might go bad or even sudden blindness in one eye, or both eyes. It you are the person who had the stroke it’s unlikely that you will be the one to call the emergency medical number, but someone needs to call it. And to call the doctor for the person having the stroke.

Back To Stopping Your Medicine Immediately – Pancreatitis

Once again, this is rare, but the use of the medicines for schizophrenia can cause pancreatitis. The symptoms of pancreatitis are pain in the upper stomach area, maybe that is felt all the way through to the back, and maybe worse after eating. Symptoms might include a fever, a rapid heart rate, nausea and vomiting, and it might hurt if someone touches the stomach area. This side effect might be more likely with olanzapine (Zyprexa), quetiapine (Seroquel), risperidone (Risperdal), and ziprasidone (Geodon) than with other medicines. It’s important to call your doctor but this might not be a medical emergency like the conditions above. Whether it’s an emergency depends on how much you hurt. If the pain is really bad get to a hospital emergency department.

When Can I Get Off Treatment for Schizophrenia?

So, returning to the question, when can I get off my medicine (or therapy) for schizophrenia? If you’re on a good medicine that works well and that you can tolerate long term, and if you’re seeing a good therapist, never stop either. Like Type 1 diabetes, schizophrenia is a lifelong condition. If you can get everything set in place for yourself, your life can be better. Stopping good medicines that work well will let a next psychosis happen. And, psychosis is toxic to the brain. With each episode of psychosis your are less likely to get well when you restart a medicine.

Helpful Links:

The Mayo Clinic on Schizophrenia Diagnosis and Treatment

The Mayo Clinic on Medicine Allergic Reactions

National Institutes of Health on Heart Reactions to Psychotropic Drugs

British Journal of Psychiatry on Medication and Venous Thrombosis

National Center for Biotechnology Information on Antipsychotic Medication and Seizures

NIH on Stroke Risk with Antipsychotic Use

National Library of Medicine on Acute Pancreatitis and Antipsychotic Use

2 thoughts on “When Can I Get Off Treatment for Schizophrenia? – Free Page”

  1. What can family members do when a patient has bad side effects or stops taking medication and Mental Health Authorities respond that he/she is an adult and should be able to make their own choices, including the choice to change doctors but the patient is too mentally ill to make any choice. Is there any laws or regulations that empower family? . Sorry this is not a clinical question

    • It is true that whether there are any laws in your governmental jurisdiction to empower a family member to get an ill person into active treatment is not strictly a clinical question. It’s more of a legal question. However, it’s a question that doctors grapple with all the time. There was a lawsuit filed in British Columbia in 2016 in which patients in British Columbia challenged the statutes on forced psychiatric treatment as a way to get more say in their care. At that time, Jonny Morris, the Canadian Mental Health Association’s director of public policy for British Columbia, said that it was too early for the Canadian Mental Health Association to take a position on the case. But he added, “Especially when it comes to involuntary treatment, we would say, where appropriate and where safe, involving families effectively is very important.”

      Supposedly there’s a “Mental Health Act” in British Columbia that makes it possible to treat people even if they don’t want the treatment if they have “Mental Health Issues”. Again, supposedly, there’s a “Guide to the Mental Health Act”. According to the Guide, if a person with Mental Health Issues is having impaired insight and is unwilling to accept voluntary treatment to stop a high risk of clinical deterioration, or harm to self or others, involuntary treatment is essential.

      Given your comment, we at the Neuroscience Research and Development Consultancy assume the laws don’t work the way they were thought to work.

      Sadly, this is an area where the greater mental health care community is divided against itself. It would seem that most of the mental health care community pushes strongly for more lax involuntary treatment laws. On the other hand, there are some within this community who want stronger laws. One might assume that the people in favor of stronger involuntary treatment laws are relatives and friends of people who do well when following their treatment program and deteriorate badly when they make the choice to abandon their treatment plan.

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